27 nosler rifle build

$3,139.99. It weighed 8 pounds, 13.5 ounces with a Bushnell 1.5-6X Elite 4200 scope in a Talley lightweight mount. Retired Marine with multiple shoulder surgeries on right shoulder and I shoot 270 now because of recoil and this 27 nosler would give me that heavier bullet and longer range compared to 270 and I'd have basically same recoil with Hawg muzzle suppressor. Published Feb 21, 2020 11:00 AM EST, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. was introduced when he was still climbing sheep mountains, and if he ever hunted with it, I dont recall reading about it. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Advertised weights are 6 lbs. And then theres the 27 Nosler. Your mileage will vary, according to how you treat your bore, how hot you let the barrel get, how hot you load your ammo, etc, etc. The result is an offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. Not many cartridges can claim that kind of longevity and success. will likely forever remain unanswered. 1:8.5 The 27 Noslers faster-than-standard twist barrel is designed to stabilize modern, long range bullets. It could make for a rather inefficient setup and with a 24in pipe not really yield a whole lot more velocity than the 270 WSM. You must log in or register to reply here. The result is a cartridge with a very large case capacity that still fits in a standard length rifle action. I came here to praise the .270, not to bury it. Residual energy at 200 yards was about the same as for the .30-30 Winchester at 100 yards, and because the .30-30 in the hands of native Alaskans has taken thousands of caribou through the years, I figured the 6.8 was plenty for shots no farther away than 200 long paces. Case dimensions were also refined to prevent cross-caliber chambering. Prior to working with the Model 48 Long-Range Carbon, I wondered if an interior magazine length of 3.425" would rule out the use of some extremely long, high-ballistic-coefficient bullets available from other companies. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? In 1970, Jack OConnor, who was a major force behind the .270s ascendance, said that by his estimation, more custom sporting rifles had been chambered in that cartridge than in any other in the postwar years. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. The Remington is more accurate, but the Winchester is accurate enough to take game as far away as I care to shoot. johnnyk Well-Known Member Joined Dec 24, 2001 Messages 2,441 Location Potters Hill, NC Jun 21, 2021 #2 Hey Gary, welcome to LR Hunting. It might take a custom-made reamer with a long pilot. Gross water capacity is 104.6 grains versus 83.1 grains for .270 Wby. Still a great rifle. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Lets talk about the .223 Remington and the .22-250 Ackley Improved cartridge. (https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/ammo/277-sig-fury-hybrid-case-design/). SIG is fairly confident in getting military contract(s). Then, you can handload the 165-grain ABLR to about 2,800 fps.Doesnt sound impressive? However, should you decide to go that route, there are gains. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. Snow Lets call the start of the overbore region to be about 1100, just for the sake of discussion. KC. (possibly NX8 4-32) Hoping for thoughts and ideas Jun 16, 2021 #2 N NK Hunter Member Joined Jun 16, 2021 The 27 Nosler is an impressive cartridge, but I dont believe anyone reading this will live long enough to see it entirely replace the .270 Win. And, last, the 1-8 twist rate in the .27 Nosler will stabilize longer and heavier bullets, making it a very viable elk and moose cartridge. The 26 Nosler came first in 2014, followed by the 28 Nosler (2015), the 30 Nosler (2016) and the 33 Nosler in 2017. in every department. This way he could get thousands of rounds out of his strange hotrod calibers. Or this new 27 Nosler cartridge? Retumbo kicks ass with the 150ABLR too in my rifle. Enable Accessibility. Plus, the slightly smaller .270 projectile has a slightly higher BC than a similar-weight, similar-design 7mm bullet. Other chambering options for the Long-Range Carbon rifle are 6.5 mm Creedmoor, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, .300 Win. First, the Weatherby Vanguard is a Howa 1500 barreled action in a Weatherby stock. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. with proper scope to take advantage of range would have capabilities at 1,200 yards on elk and such game. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. For decades, the .270 bullet space has been underloved by premium bullet makers most bullets for the .270 were hunting bullets, with a few varmint bullets for blowing up coyotes. During that time, if you could get ammunition-makers to open their books, youd have seen that the .270 was one of the top three or five bestsellers in their lineups. Other rifle makers will take years to jump on board. A few days later, my guide and I managed to locate an old 32 mule deer across a canyon in the high country. OK, that seems like a pretty good percentage increase, but what else might be in that region? Advertised muzzle velocity is 2,835 fps. Having similar stocks on your rifles, helps to make me proficient moving from one rifle to the other in this environment. The Berger 170-gr. If you study ballistic form factor at all, the .277 is lagging behind both the 7mm and 6.5mm as far as efficiency for a given projectile weight. Both should shine in this cartridge. It begins with a circumference of 5.5" near the receiver and then abruptly swells to a much larger handful. Facebook; Instagram; Help. MTH carved its smallest groups with 0.035" of jump, and that put cartridge length for it at 3.402". Shooting flatter and with more downrange energy that a 270 Weatherby is quite a deal. A 1:10 rifling twist rate proved to be quick enough to stabilize the rather long 150-grain AccuBond LR, but even longer bullets are available. Wish I were younger27 Nosler with 180 grain Woodleigh weldcorethat would be my elk load. Im going to pull the case capacity for the .27 Nosler from the .26 Nosler and the .28 Nosler, which Im seeing is about 94 grains. In those days the few firearms writers working regularly were big fans of the .30-06, and little positive mention was made of the new upstart. Thanks for the welcome and the insights. I also shoot a 300 Weatherby (and a .257) and the 300 punishes the plate in my neck. 350 white box Legend round is cheaper than the .223 now, hard to get these new calipers to stick around. can push a similar-weight bullet. Mag. My Peterson contact says they are in the development stage for 27 Nosler brass, so got that to look forward to. Not to mention the fact that, right now, only a $3k Nosler rifle can fire it. I believe it held 10 rds. Ive shot it for 25 years. Manageable recoil, flat shooting and enough umph to take deer easily. Nov 8, 2006. I developed the loads for 130- and 160-grain bullets, and while they have not been pressure-tested, they were safe maximums in my rifle. That's right in between the .270 Winchester and the 27 Noslerand this cartridge fits into short-action rifles and plays nicer with the short barrels popular with mountain hunters. But Ill keep my 7mm-08 for the family. A custom built one (twist, bullet selection, etc.) Dan, Their rifles aren't free, but they do make a good product and they will make it good for you. It makes much better use of a long action and still keep the bearing surface ahead of the shoulder/neck junction. AccuBond Long Range bullets at respective muzzle velocities of 3250 f.p.s. Among the factory loads, my favorite varmint load is Federal American Eagle loaded with the Speer 90-grain TNT. It should come as no small comfort for any patriotic American to know that the countrys firearm industry is vibrant and productive, still faithfully serving the needs of armed citizens, law-enforcement officers and military personneljust as it has for more than two centuries. Fully prepped and ready to load, Nosler's gone ahead and done the meticulous case prep work for you. When loaded with IMR 4350, the slowest-burning powder available at the time, the .270 Wby. Apr 27, 2022. beetroot. For old-school hunters like myself, I included the grand old Nosler 160-gr. It still wears the Weatherby 3-9X Supreme scope in a Buehler two-piece mount that came on it. Nosler has introduced the 27 Nosler, a 27-caliber cartridge based on the "fat" .404 Jeffery case, same as the .30, .28, and .26 Noslers. There are no factory options available. Most rifles chambered in 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, and 270 Weatherby have a 1:10" rifling twist rate. did so well for so many years, and perhaps that magic will rub off on the 27 Nosler too. Thats right in between the .270 Winchester and the 27 Noslerand this cartridge fits into short-action rifles and plays nicer with the short barrels popular with mountain hunters.In addition to the heavy-for-caliber Nosler ABLR, Browning introduced a new 175-grain .270 bullet in its Long Range Pro line. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. The 28 Nosler is a long, long range rig with 26-inch barrel. Could this be related to the military push for a high power 6.8 cartridge to penetrate Russian body armor? Now, take that big fat case and neck it UP to make a .458 Nosler, and Im in. It winds up being a handload or pay way to much per shootzen gunm. Nosler Pro Staff; Sponsored Shooters; Project 48; . According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. I think not. The soon the be released 277 SIG Fury Hybrid Ammunition is derived from the military Enhanced Rifle Cartridge Program. A faster-than-standard 1-8.5" twist barrel design allows the 27 Nosler to propel Nosler's factory-loaded 150gr AccuBond and 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets (new for 2020) at never-before-seen velocities and distances in 270 caliber. Im not sure I see the point here. I was especially interested in the 27 Nosler, and while there are no immediate plans to offer unprimed cases, ammunition, or rifles chambered for it, my friends at Nosler kindly agreed to build a Model 48 Liberty in 27 Nosler for this report. The 6.5 Creedmoor had just been introduced and would soon become the dominant centerfire cartridge for a new generation of shooters and hunters. Both rifles depart the factory with the same one-m.o.a. and .375 Holland & Holland Magnum, but it took very little reading between the lines to see that the .270 was his favorite. Being able to use Lapua brass would be a plus. would i need to change the bolt face? Note that while Nosler's proprietary cartridges (to include the 27 Nosler), and the rifles they're available in, are capable of excellent accuracy at long range in the right hands, they're designed primarily for big game hunting, not for competition shooting. Probably not for what Weatherby charges. *I'd go back with 270 WSM especially if you already have the components. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. I have not kept an accurate count of the game bagged with the .270 WSM through the years, but I have taken enough to become convinced that all things consideredincluding recoil and performance on gameit might just be the most useful member of the WSM family. While I am sure he would have wanted me to take it hunting, I simply could not bring myself to subject it to the hard knocks of the outdoors. Averages for 150-grain bullets were 2,926 fps and 3,085 fps respectively for a difference of 159 fps. Depends on how you load it. Theres more to a cartridge than velocity and trajectory, however, and although the 27 Nosler gets high marks for both, the reasons Im bullish about its prospects have more to do with the details of its design. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Other likely candidates for this cartridge include IMR 8133, Reloder 33, Reloder 25, and Reloder 26. Among my handloads, Reloder 25 and the Swift 130-gr. Unprimed cases are available from Hornady, Nosler, Federal, Remington, and Winchester. Note also that the 6.8 Western runs neck and neck with the 7mm Rem. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. That bullet offers the best of all worlds, as it will reliably expand at longer ranges when it has slowed down a bit, yet will hold together at woods distances when velocities remain high . So overkill for most things youd want to use a .270 for, and a bit small (in terms of projectile mass and diameter) for most things youd want to use a big honkin magnum for. Which cartridge? OConnor was also right about powder and bullet weight. Besides, why not just go with .300 Win. Other features common among these cartridges include minimal body taper, steep shoulder angles, and tight throat dimensions. Butt stroke a man with an M-4. . ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But do you know how to properly use them? For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. If they do, this cartridge will drop steeply in price and would become widely available (once military obligations are met). A clearance notch at the front of the comb allows the bolt to be removed without dinging the stock. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Were going to drop the units of square inches in this computation. You can see these barreled actions for sale at Brownells. The Model 21 is built by riflemen, for riflemen and provides exceptional reliability and packable precision to any huntwherever that may be. Neither is there a shortage of reloading components. 130 Grain; 140 Grain; 150 Grain; 160 - 165 Grain; NOSLER. As would be expected, the 27 Nosler is a powerhouse. For 2020, Nosler has chosen to take the venerable 270 caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new 27 Nosler. Give a Gift The Shilen match grade barrel features a threaded muzzle (1/2-28 or 5/8-24 Tpi) for suppressor adaptation and also includes a knurled thread protector. Special order / hard to get parts for a rifle, thats just not my style. rifles is too slow to stabilize some of todays bullets, but later rifles with a 1:10 twist handle most of them just fine. This doesnt do anything a dozen other chamberings cant do. The .256 Newton loaded with a 0.264-inch bullet was enjoying a bit of popularity among hunters, and giving the .270 Win. What has to be the most bullet-proof animal in North America took one 140-grain bullet behind its shoulder at 160 yards and immediately went down for the count. The 1:12 rifling twist of early .270 Wby. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Pressure-tested data came from Nosler, Hodgdon and VihtaVuori. Good for the industry to add new calibers. Soon after Mike Lake of Nosler had completed the designs and specifications for a family of cartridges on the .404 Jeffery case, they were all registered with SAAMI. The 27 Nosler, introduced in 2020, is the fifth cartridge developed by the family-operated company on the modified .404 Jeffery case. Not far from you, live near Beulaville. rifle market grow and develop into a complete niche of its own. Ten pulls on a Lyman digital gauge averaged 3 lbs., 3 ozs., with a variation of only 3 ozs. You can also use our Rifle spec builder and create the gun of your dreams and get a pdf of all of the details emailed to you. Theres already a cartridge that would do all this: the 7mm Dakota. Pacific Tool & Gauge has chamber reamers for all Nosler cartridges, including the 27 Nosler, 35 Nosler, and 36 Nosler. At 500 yds. That is, not unless you replace that 1:10-twist factory barrel with a custom barrel with a 1:8 twist. For handloaders, Nosler will also offer fully prepared Nosler brass, the aforementioned component bullets, and reloading data for the 27 Nosler. The case capacity of a .270 Winchester case (in grains of water) is about 68 grains. Mag. The 27 Nosler shares the same caliber as the storied .270 Winchester and other .27 caliber rifles. They will overhype and overprice this just like their others. Single-loading was equally smooth. One was this insane .300 RUM necked down to 6.0 mm with MV in the 4000 fps range. Could be wrong. Area of the bore is 0.04676 in^2. During the design stages of the 27 Nosler and its littermates, cartridge Maximum Overall Length was kept at 3.340" for compatibility with the .30-06 Sprg.-length Nosler Model 48 action. Mag. Mine weighs 5.25 pounds, and a Swarovski 3-10X scope in a Talley lightweight mount adds only about a pound. While the two loads offered by Nosler are capable of covering a lot of hunting territory, I wanted to see how bullets of other weights would perform in the Long-Range Carbon with its 1:8.5" twist. OConnor passed away in 1978, but if he were still with us today would he abandon his beloved custom rifles in .270 Win. This 8 twist 26" barrel loves 150gr Nosler ballistic tip and N570 with gm215m primers at a mild 3300 fps. An all-out, full-throttle kinda cartridge, it pushes that 165-grain ABLR bullet at an eyebrow-raising 3,150 fps. So, not only does the new cartridge have a definite velocity advantage, but it can also use heavier and more aerodynamic bullets than the competition. His other creations waiting impatiently in the wings are the 27 Nosler, the 35 Nosler, and the 36 Nosler. The Nosler 160-grain Partition is probably the most neglected. If I was going to get into long distance shooting and had the money I would look long and hard at this cartridge in a Nosler mountain rifle. They dont try to look like tacti-cool products. Im not sure the taper on the cartridge would allow this, but it might. There were almost no high-Bc bullets being made to maximize range in the .270 space. Long known for making high quality hunting ammo, Nosler kicked off their line of proprietary cartridges back in 2013 when they introduced the 26 Nosler centerfire rifle cartridge. When throated it should still have room in a 3.6" magazine. Create your perfect Rifle in just a few steps. Velocity and energy are comparable, too. What about the good old .270? Among modern long-range shooters, respect for Jack OConnors favorite is nonexistent.Meanwhile, new cartridges such as the 6.5 PRC, 28 Nosler, and .300 PRC have been leaving the .270 Win. Reloder 50 did a good job behind the Nosler 160-grain Partition, and H50BMG and US 869 would likely do as well. I have been running a 27 nosler for a few years,26/28 dies wont work.RCBS makes 27 nosler dies that are readily available. Thats a pretty steep price for the gain. The thread protector on the Model 48 weighs 0.5 oz., and replacing it with an extremely effective, three-port titanium brake available from Nosler weighing only 2.2 ozs. 27 Nosler Load Data; 27 Nosler Load Data. The loads for 140- and 150-grain bullets in my chart were furnished by Nosler and did not exceed 61,750 psi in Noslers 26-inch pressure barrel. Haha, this velocity comparison is a joke. If I use the Rem 700 action as planned I will install a Wyatt's mbe-3. Jul 1, 2019 #4 ; Thats right, i forgot. and 3158 f.p.s. Wind drift at 1,000 yards is within a half-inch. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. the 27 Nosler drops 11 less than a 270 Win and 7 less than a 270 WSM. (see my post above). Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. The 27. For instance, the chart below shows the stark contrast between the performance of the 27 Nosler and the other popular .277" cartridges. To prevent a dangerous situation by accidentally chambering a 28 Nosler cartridge into a 27 Nosler chamber, why wasnt the shoulder of the 28 Nosler moved forward like the 280 Remington and the 7mm WSM? Then you obviously already know why the shoulder of the .280 Rem. 800-741-0015. It was a hell of a run. Nosler has used several different triggers through the years, and this one has a fully adjustable Timney with a two-position safety that, when engaged, allows the bolt to be rotated for loading and unloading the chamber. Mike Schoby takes his nephew, Mitchell, on his first-ever whitetail hunt in Nebraska. The biggest challenge would be making sure the pilot for the reamer is engaged in the bore before it starts cutting the read end of the chamber. Theyre cool on paper but I dont know what Id do with them. Since then, they've continued that trend by introducing the 22 Nosler, the 28 Nosler, the 30 Nosler, and the 33 Nosler cartridges to the hunting and shooting worlds. It is flanked on one side by some excellent 6.5mm and 6mm rounds, and by. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. According to Nosler, with the 150-gr. Handloaders will also want to consider Bergers 190-grain EOL Elite Hunter. You are using an out of date browser. for the Mountain Carbon and 7 lbs. Designed from the beginning to use the new .277 caliber 165gr AccuBond Long Range (.620 BC), 27 Nosler rifles used a faster 1:8.5 rifling twist rate and took the performance of the .277 caliber to the next level by allowing for the use of extremely high BC bullets in a .277 caliber cartridge. Locating the shoulder datum point of the 28 Nosler case a bit farther forward lessened the odds of that happening. The flat-bottom fore-end snuggles nicely into a sandbag, and yet measuring 1.88" wide at its midpoint, it is narrow enough for a comfortable fit with the hand. I had a .270 for years and liked it. But more guns are chambered in .270 both past and present so good luck unseating a round people are familiar with for almost 100 years. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. added very little weight to the rifle. A friend of mine bought a Model Seven in 6.8 SPC as a first centerfire rifle for his young daughter, and he considers Hornady Custom with the 120-grain SST and Federal Fusion with the 115-grain Fusion to be the deadliest medicines available for use on deer and feral hogs. Bolt Action Rifles. I see this 27 Nosler round being a boutique cartridge for long-range target shooting enthusiasts, and maybe (heavy emphasis on maybe) a long-range sniper cartridge for the U.S. military. Torx-head bolts at the front and rear of the receiver secure the pillar-bedded action to a Manners MCS-T Elite Tac stock while the barrel free-floats. My guess is a barrel life of 1500 rounds tops. With a little dish soap, we can get the water to form a flat surface across the neck opening. Subscriber Services. Nosler has just announced another addition to its family of eponymous cartridges, the 27 Nosler. Neck length increased only slightly after cases had been pounded by four full-power firings. This cartridge, loaded to potential, is well into overbore status, and I would expect barrel life to be less than 2000 rounds, maybe even less than 1500 if it is being shot repetitively (as in a match or practicing). Follow him on Facebook&YouTubeand subscribe to his show: the Big Game Hunting Podcast. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. However, the 6.5 Creedmoor was only the most conspicuous piece in a series of trends that dethroned the .270. Expanding bullets of monolithic construction often shoot more accurately when seated for plenty of jump, and that makes those from Barnes, Hornady, Nosler, and others logical options for rifles with freebored chambers. My name was engraved on a gold plate inletted into the bottom of its fore-end, and the rifle was presented to me on a special occasion by Roy Weatherby. A few months prior to the official introduction of the .270 WSM in 2002, I used a Browning A-Bolt chambered for it to take a very large nilgai bull on the King Ranch in Texas. You must log in or register to reply here. The same applies to some of the maximum loads published in various reloading manuals. Cartridge neck diameter with a bullet seated is 0.311 inch. was introduced in 1925? Buy Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon Bolt Action Rifle .27 Nosler: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bolt Action Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 984471926. . Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. So thats a long way of saying probably not, but it might be possible that it would not cost as much as a Dakota-made or full-custom rifle. The .270 Winchester, depending on what/how you loaded it, could be bordering on overbore or well into overbore status. Rather than illustrating that the original American .270 is over-the-hill, occasional moments in the limelight along with quick-twist barrels and new bullets may show it to be even better than Jack OConnor claimed. Comb height also proved to be a comfortable fit with the lower mounting of the relatively small Nightforce scope I used when shooting the rifle. accuracy guarantee. All numbers are crunched at standardized, sea-level atmospheric conditions. Sends it through the roof. JavaScript is disabled. Share: Facebook Twitter WhatsApp Email Share Link. The most accurate I shot was a Model 700 SPS with a 22-inch barrel. Mag., 30 Nosler and 33 Nosler. . I used the 27 Nosler last fall on a hunt in Utah for pronghorns and mule deer, and it probably wont shock you to learn it worked just fine. Yeah. Like what you see? The action and the aluminum bottom metal have a Cerakote finish in Sniper Grey. We use cookies to make your experience better. I figure Ill shoot the barrel out of it, and then put on a high-end target barrel to replace it. Were I looking to shoot game at 1000 yards (and Im not), I would be looking at something in the 7mm/0.284 space, not the .270/6.8 mm bullet space.

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